Just a little something for a lazy Sunday afternoon. Wrap your heads around these..
Justs Think About It…
So I’m on the train going home yesterday half asleep and my mind starts to wander. I haven’t had the pleasure of letting my mind wander like that in quite a while. Here are some of the things I was pondering.
-Which definition came first?
1) fag·got /‘fa-g&t/ Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fagot, from Middle French
: BUNDLE: as a : a bundle of sticks
b : a bundle of pieces of wrought iron to be shaped by rolling or hammering at high temperature –
2) fag·got Pronunciation: ‘fa-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
usually disparaging : a male homosexual
I’m guessing number one was around first, so my next question would be who the hell made the decision to start calling gay dudes a bundle of sticks?
-I wonder how painful it was to get circumcised. I mean could it be that bad if they do it to babies? On the other hand I know how excruciatingly painful it is just to be kicked in the nuts
.So if it’s as painful to have skin cut off your unit as common sense deems it should be, then that’s some fucked up shit to be doing to newborns. Glad I don’t remember that!
-Was it considered gay to like Barbra Streissand or Judy Garland when they were contemporary artists, or is that a more recent development?
-Wonder who the first person to say god’s name in vain was. I mean nowadays we say god damn and Jesus Christ all the time. We say it for anything from stubbing our toe, to reacting to a girl with a big ass (yeah I’ve done that once or twice
). But it wasn’t always cool to be so nonchalant about it. I am pretty sure back in the day saying something like that could get you stoned. So just think about how serious shit had to be for someone to say it. I would think it would have to be something like somebody’s thing getting caught in their zipper, or at least a girl with a really, really, nice ass (just kidding).
-Wouldn’t is suck if you died, went to heaven and everything was perfect except god turns out to be a huge fan of Yanni 
and Micheal Bolton (or fill in your own shitty music choice) and spent half the time in heaven playing their “greatest hits.” Oh, the humanity!!!
-You ever wonder how certain words came to define certain things. Like who decided the common word for flatulence would be fart? I mean some things make sense. For instance sandwich comes from the Earl of Sandwich who invented them. Or other words derive from latin or some romance language. Maybe fart was a feeble attempt at naming it after the sound a silent one makes. You know when it slips out and makes that pffft sound. Or was there an Earl of Fart or something? I don’t know. Let me stop talking about this.
That’s all for now. I think I’ve done enough rambling for today. These questions were mostly hypothetical but if you guys care to take a shot at any of them please by all means do. Good night and good luck.
Against the Grain 
Haha, I think about stuff like this all the time. There was definitely and Earl of Fart!
LOL..some good thinking thoughts there. I also know that “fag” is the British term for cigarettes.
Yanni, huh? That would stink. As for the rest of it, if you think about it, I can see how someone changed faggot into what it is today. Taking God’s name in vain is doing anything to make it commonplace or said without any reverence. That can be quite harrowing when we start applying it. Think about all the businesses that advertise as Christian businessnes or display the icthus (sp?) as part of the advertising. yikes! Hubby read once in Men’s Health that when babies are circumcised it hurts so much that they are held down and that they scream so loud that they typically lose their breath. If we ever are blessed with a boy, the foreskin stays. No arguments about that will ever occur in our marriage since Hubby is adament about it. I want to know when it Cher became an icon for the gay community. Was it after her divorce from Sonny? That’s all I got.
You are a philosopher for our generation! Great observations!
This is cute.I’ve never heard the term bundle of sticks.
mmmm, Serena.
Lmfao. Yanni’s music screams “bundle of sticks.”
Stop thinking so much. you’re making my brain hurt. 🙂
If Yanni’s Heaven’s soundtrack, I am afraid.And the Earl of Fart? That made me laugh out loud. Hilarious.
I wonder if there was an Earl of Snot?
Earl of Fart lol.. thats funny stuff things that make you go hmmmmm
Could I have made any more grammatical and spelling errors in that original comment. ACK!
You really shouldn’t let your mind wander out on its own. There’s just no telling what kind of weird stuff it will get itself into!
To answer the faggot question:faggot (1)1279, “bundle of twigs bound up,” from O.Fr. fagot “bundle of sticks,” from It. faggotto, dim. of V.L. *facus, from L. fascis “bundle of wood” (see fasces). Esp. used for burning heretics (a sense attested from 1555), so that phrase fire and faggot was used to mean “punishment of a heretic.” Heretics who recanted were required to wear an embroidered figure of a faggot on their sleeve, as an emblem and reminder of what they deserved.faggot (2)“male homosexual,” 1914, Amer.Eng. slang (shortened form fag is from 1921), probably from earlier contemptuous term for “woman” (1591), especially an old and unpleasant one, in reference to faggot (1) “bundle of sticks,” as something awkward that has to be carried (cf. baggage). It was used in this sense in 20c. by D.H. Lawrence and James Joyce, among others. It may also be reinforced by Yiddish faygele “homosexual,” lit. “little bird.” It also may have roots in Brit. public school slang fag “a junior who does certain duties for a senior” (1785), with suggestions of “catamite,” from fag (v.). This was also used as a verb.”He [the prefect] used to fag me to blow the chapel organ for him.” [“Boy’s Own Paper,” 1889]Other obsolete senses of faggot were “man hired into military service simply to fill out the ranks at muster” (1700) and “vote manufactured for party purposes” (1817). The oft-heard statement that male homosexuals were called faggots in reference to their being burned at the stake is an etymological urban legend. Burning was sometimes a punishment meted out to homosexuals in Christian Europe (on the suggestion of the Biblical fate of Sodom and Gomorah), but in England, where parliament had madehomosexuality a capital offense in 1533, hanging was the method prescribed. Any use of faggot in connection with public executions had long become an English historical obscurity by the time the word began to be used for “male homosexual” in 20th century American slang, whereas the contemptuous slang word for “woman” (and the other possible sources or influences listed here) was in active use.
If God enjoys listening to country western music, I might fnd myself taking vacations in Hell just to give my ears a rest.
I remember an old Saturday Night Live skit. Paul Simon was the guest. He got stuck on an elevator which played all the Simon and Garfunkle tunes, but the instrumental Muzak versions of them. It annoyed the crap out of Paul. The punchline to the skit was he had died and that Muzak elevator was Hell.
There is no way that God will be playing Yanni and Michael Bolton in heaven. The Bible says that there will be no tears, crying, and pain. All three are there whenever Yanni is played.
Yanni? Dear God, I hope not…
pretty interesting thoughts. i’d like to think that God’s choice in music is universally or “heavenly” enjoyed. hopefully…
I thought faggot was something you smoked??And no clay hattin on Mondays!!
also, think about how some of us aren’t black enough to have a day off. booooo.
That’s not rambling. Those are actually good questions. I knew about the whole “fagot/faggot” thing.
you’re silly
@TheBigShowAtUD – haha. I am in that boat. I keep telling my boos all day, you got me workin’ like a slave today. That ain’t right!
@vanedave – waaade in the waaaaterrrrrrr…i can’t believe you said “in the same boat.” not right, man. that’s how it started! you just wait til february.
@TheBigShowAtUD – haha. you’s a fool.
@vanedave – haha. yeah. i do what i can.
If God is a fan of Yanni and Bolton, I’ll happily go to hell and toot the train’s whistle all the way!
I think the real question is whether or not you should be left alone to think so much. I don’t know why they started calling gay men faggots, personally I think it’s really unecessary.
lol!!